We are trying to get a better sense for the genetic ancestry and commonality of the various Riehle lines. While autosomal DNA (atDNA) dilutes over a limited number of generations, Y-DNA and mt-DNA remain distinctive over hundreds of generations. Many of us attempt to track our mtDNA as well as Y-DNA back as far as we can, but since this site is focused on a specific surname and since surnames in our culture have generally been passed from father to son along with the Y chromosome, tracking Y-haplogroups among Family Segments has relevance to the focus of this website.
We all understand of course that not all Riehle Y-DNA will be the same due to adoptions or other variations that can creep into the family line over hundreds of years. All are fully legitimate representations of the Riehle family and we would endeavor to identify these individual haplogroups within Family Segments while also looking for genetic linkage among segments. It goes without saying that to do this we need participation across the various Family Segments.
So we are attempting to tie the various results to Riehle Immigrant Ancestors or other broad family identifiers. More data will yield better insights, so please do not hold back just because there may already be results for your ancestral line. More listings with the same haplogroups and ancestors provide better information, as does information related to additional haplogroups.
We will of course want to have information about your earliest known Riehle male ancestors and about adoptions or other reasons why your Y-DNA might vary from that of your early Riehle ancestor. Nothing will go on this table without your review and approval but such context will be helpful regardless.
|Y-Haplogroup||Immigrant Ancestor or Similar Family Tie|
|E-V13, aka E1b1b1a1b1a|
Subclade of E-M78 and E-V68
|From the line of Clemens Riehle of Wagshurts, Baden and Southwestern Ohio. Autosomal DNA matches (primarily on Ancestry.com) link to other Riehle family members back through Johannes Riehle (1756–1828) with descendants in Ohio, NY, Indiana, Kentucky, Arizona, etc. See next block re. Y-DNA matches through Mathias Riehle.|
|E-V13 (same as above)|
The frequency of E-V13 in central and southern Germany is reported to be only 3%-10%
|From the line of Felix and Leonhard Riehle of Wagshurts, Baden and Southeastern Indiana. Descendants spread to Wisconsin, Iowa and other parts of the country. The common ancestor with Clemens and Johannes Riehle (above) is Mathias Riehle (1697-1748). It is unlikely the relatively rare E-V13 in both lines is coincidental and it is thus likely that Mathias, Felix, etc. were all E-V13.|
|R – S6168 – Subclade of R1b1a1a2a1a2c, aka R1b-L21, aka R1b-M529||The Y-DNA described to the left is from the line of Bartholomew Riehle (via son Andrew) of Offenburg, Baden with descendants in Ross County Ohio, Farming Minnesota, North Dakota and elsewhere. |
There is a second, older, less precise reading of simply R1b1 from another Bartholomew Riehle descendant (via his son Ferdinand). This less specific reading likely reflects the same haplogroup as the Bartholomew sample above but this is uncertain as there are a number of others with R1b1 haplogroups, such as the one below from the Württemberg Riehle lineage.
There is also autosomal DNA information available suggesting there might be a direct, all male-male DNA link between the Wagshurts line and the line of Bartholomew Riehle (via son Henry). This is also inconclusive but suggests Bartholomew may have been from haplogroup E-V13 (see above). Help Wanted – See Article,
|R-M405, aka R-U106, aka R1b1-S21, aka |
|From a Riehle in Germany near Stuttgart (Württemberg). This haplogroup is held by about 19% of men in Germany. We welcome other Württemberg or other German Riehle descendants to participate.|
Come on Riehle boys, help us out with this! Please reply below with your information or get tested with 23andMe or another testing services that include haplogroup information. Please contact us (below) to discuss testing services or costs. All responses will be kept confidential unless and until you agree to allow it to appear.
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